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Seriously, the Patriots garbage can is ugly. Trust me. August 16, 2007

Filed under: Habitat, The Boy — Clink @ 10:38 am

M and I practically live together. In fact, he refers to his apartment as “that expensive closet out in Queens” and usually spends only one or two nights a month there.  
 
So, officially moving in together come September really shouldn’t be a big deal. Except, it kind of is - but not for the reasons you might expect.
 
 
Emotionally, I know we can handle it. It won’t be that big of a departure for us. The physical act of moving in together (as in two people, two sets of furniture, one apartment), however, is proving to be a bit more daunting.
 
 
M is, as you may have deduced by now, a boy. Please note I left the word metrosexual – or whatever the kids are calling it these days – out of that description. He’s a boy who has collected boy-ish furniture (mostly through a series of “hey, I’m getting rid of this, you want it M?” or “hmm, that book shelf by the side of the road looks like it’s in good shape”) and now he wants to move that rag tag collection of mismatched-ness into our sparkly new apartment.
 
 
To which I say: here are the directions to Goodwill, honey. Give them everything. Including those issues of Sports Illustrated that date back to before I was born.
 
 
I didn’t think it would be this hard to mesh our stuff, but this is New York. It’s not like we can just throw his oversized Patriots garbage can in the basement of our spacious suburban home and forget about it. If he wants to keep that Patriots garbage can (which he does, he says it would be sacrilege to throw out or donate), there’s no place to hide it. (Except for under the sink, which is probably where it will end up unless I can convince the movers to accidentally lose it on the way from Queens to Manhattan.)
 
 
Another disagreement we’ve been having lately: which bed to keep? There is only one bedroom (again, New York) and there’s no place to store an extra queen-sized mattress and no, M, we are not going to just “leave it in the living room” as a “place for people to, you know, hang out.” I want to keep my bed as it is newer and does not gap in the middle. He wants to keep his cough ten year old cough bed because, well, it’s his and he likes it.
 
 
We did buy a bunch of furniture at Ikea, mostly at my urging, so that we could have matching bedside tables and sit at the dining table on chairs that are not of the folding variety.
 
 
However, the rest of it is proving to be a disagreement at every turn. Granted, it’s mostly playful, but there are serious undertones. We both like what we have and we both do not understand why the other is being so stubborn.
 
 
Don’t even get me started on DirecTV versus my beloved Time Warner Cable. Though, he may win that argument as the alternative to getting DirecTV (which comes with the NFL package so he can watch those beloved Patriots while flicking wings into the Patriots garbage can) is going next door to Hooters to catch the games. Rock, hard place. Goodbye Style Network, it’s been real.
 
 
So, I ask all of you who are living with significant others or have lived with significant other or anyone who has an opinion on the matter, really: was it this hard? Are M and I being unreasonable? Should I just submit to the fact that half of my furniture will look like cast-offs from a fraternity house? And who the hell wants to keep an aged, sagging bed over an almost brand new, very expensive one?! WHO?!

 

39 Responses to “Seriously, the Patriots garbage can is ugly. Trust me.”

  1. Molly Says:

    Living together is not that hard. We are lucky because we have an office, which for a very long time was HIS room. It included multiple movie posters, a signed picture of some famous sailing guy, model fire trucks (or as he calls them, “collector’s items”) and other guy stuff that I deemed inappropriate to be seen by anyone entering our home.

    Eventually, we found a happy medium and both of our stuff resides happily in one home. Except for the movie posters, which now live in a closet.

  2. bloggingbarbie Says:

    oh clinky…man. i got nothing for ya. i know that’s not really helpful, but yeah…i’ve never done the whole living together thing.

    but, if it’s any consolation, i wish you the best, and look forward to reading how you handle it so i can take note for future reference (yeah, that’s right, blogging big sis).

    i guess my only suggestion would be perhaps a trade-off? make a list of what is called into question between you two lovebirds (limit the number of items or whatever) and then you get to keep one, he gets to keep one…a little 3rd grade perhaps..but hey. if all else fails, it’s an idea. damn. compromise is a bitch.

    oh and the patriots garbage can? dude. i will payyyy those movers to “misplace” it. no friend of mine (blog or not) should ever, ever, be an owner of a patriots garbage can. no. ma’am.

  3. Melissa Says:

    It wasn’t hard for us as we had a house - therefore basement in which to store sports posters, trophies, etc. As for everything else - we kept which was nicer. The knife set, the dish set, etc. It just came down to who had the nicer set. It is OURS (YOURS together) now anyway, so no need to choose sides since we’re both on the same one. Good luck!

  4. MLE Says:

    My best advice is to make sure that at least one room in your apartment is decorated/furnished the way YOU want and at least one room is decorated/furnished the way HE wants and everything else you two decide together. If that means your awesome new bed in the bedroom and his trash can in the living room, so be it. It will make you both feel a lot more at home and able to weather the transition better if each of you has a little space that feels like YOU (I know, difficult to do in a Manhattan apartment).

    After a while of living together, everything will really start to feel like yours (as in, all the stuff will feel like it belongs to both of you) and you’ll slowly start to accumulate stuff together for your place. That stuff will really feel like it belongs to both of you. Eventually it won’t matter anymore whose stuff was whose because it will all be yours (belong to you both).

  5. sarabanjo Says:

    We live in the city too, and really it just boils down to compromise. We each have things that are completely off the table, not for discussion (thankfully none of those involve an ugly garbage can, but stuff that can be stowed away in one of many closets–a godsend at our current place). My husband also came to really like living in a place with nice furniture once it was all in place, but boy did I have to campaign hard for mirrors and rugs, etc. No sweat. Really, if these are your biggest arguments, you are in a good place!

  6. Mike Says:

    OK, Clink, for the first time ever, I’m like, what is this girl thinking?

    If he has a Patriots garbage can. He must keep said Patriots garbage can. Not because the Patriots are, well, the Patriots, but because it’s a garbage can. His garbage can.

    It’s compromise. My apartment pre-marriage was decorated in what I like to call the early American yard sale motif. But, that comfy couch that’s falling apart? eventually, it goes….he’ll be ok with it. As long as he still can throw his wings in the garbage can.

    But that’s a whole other conversation that I might need to have with him. I mean, does he actually use his Patriots garbage can? Because my Red Sox garbage can, well, it doesn’t get used.

  7. Kate Says:

    All I can offer is this: be glad it’s not a lamp made out of a Steelers helmet that he insists on keeping on a bedside table.

    (I also lost the DirectTV/Cable argument. Because, “It’s not just NFL Sunday Ticket, Cable doesn’t have the NFL network either!”)

    On the bright side, most of the school memorabilia (We do not need a “Play like a Champion Today” sign hanging over our front or any other door)and random trophies have been relegated to bookshelves and inside closets without too much protest. He had the great king-sized bed, so getting rid of my queen wasn’t an issue.

    You get used to it, though. Not that I will ever stop thinking of ways for the Steelers lamp to disappear..

  8. onebigholiday Says:

    Mike is right…it is all about compromise. Luckily we have an office that his and entirely his, but it all boils down to compromise.

    But moving meshing your stuff shouldn’t be that hard as long as you realize that you finally get to move in with the man that you love.

  9. *kb* Says:

    You’re suggesting he get rid of his “workbench”? :-) I trust this will all work out!! The garbage can though!? ACK!!!!!!!!!

  10. Michelle Says:

    well you are definitely in a heck of a situation. we have a house, so it’s been relatively easy keeping all of our stuff.

    i don’t think you’re being unreasonable about wanting to keep a “grown-up” look to your apartment as opposed to the “yard-sale” motif though. i agree with blogging barbie, maybe make a list of said items in question and pick and choose what has to stay. i’m sorry i don’t have better ideas! damn tiny manhattan apartments!

  11. sasharay Says:

    Hey Clink. P and I recently moved in together and had many similar discusions. The thing that I had to learn that this will no longer be MY place. It is now OUR place. Which means, he is willing to compromise when I make beautiful (and girlie) curtains for the living room, and I compromise with letting him keep his tee shirt quilt out.

    We’ve only been cohabitating for around 2 months and things are already being meshed and he is starting to throw things out that “don’t go.”

    Let him keep his trash can and aim to keep your bed. Because really? The trash can can be hidden under the desk or something if you have Posh friends coming over. Just try to let him keep the things that make him the man you love. :)

    It will work out!

  12. verybadcat Says:

    Wow- the things you avoid having to go through when you marry at twenty! :) We evolved from yard sale chic to cohesive adult furniture together. :)

    First off, our local cable company offers PPV packages for the NFL and college football. I would stand firm in your love of cable. Because not only is it cheaper, but then you will have your local forecast on the weather channel. I would dig the ditch myself if they would string the cable out to my hideaway.

    Rather than telling you to compromise, I ask you this. Why doesn’t he like your bed? Or, what is it about his bed that he loves so much? Maybe if you reach an area (beds, perhaps) where you are at a stalemate, you could both sell yours and use the money to buy one together. He sells his bed for $10 to whoever buys a 10 year old used bed, you sell yours, and go buy a bed together.

    If you let him keep some of the smaller ugly stuff- like the trashcan- he might not be so damn picky about the bigger stuff.

    Can you find room for a Man Corner in your apartment? Put the trashcan and the wagon wheel coffee table in the corner with some other bachelor furniture and then buy one of those sweet Asian screens for his “privacy”. Bam! His ugly crap, hidden in a corner, and yet you get the points for compromise.

    Good Luck!!

  13. Cath Says:

    He gets to keep the garbage can, you get to keep the bed.

    Fair exchange?

  14. Peter Says:

    I don’t think that any self-respecting NYC moving man would be willing to even touch a Patriots’ garbage can.

    I’m with M on the satellite dish though. I love mine to a moderately disturbing degree.

    As for the bed, I bet if you googled around for pics of things that might live inside a ten year old mattress, it could really help your case. And/or ruin your lunch.

  15. katryne Says:

    i def say engage in heavy trading,
    IE: trashcan (you always need them), direct TV (its just TV), sports posters (i had his framed to match my stuff), etc traded for you bed.

    if nothing else point out how much you will be having sex in YOUR bed and how little in HIS.

    i detail more here:

    http://eachofthetwo.blogspot.com/2007/05/you-know-how-boys-will-say-something.html

  16. katryne Says:

    oh, and i made him buy a slip cover for his shitty looking couch that he says is “still good”

  17. PL Says:

    You haven’t mentioned the roommate in a while, what are her plans when you move out? Or wait, did you already move from that apartment?

    I recently (well, like 4 months ago recent) moved in with my bf, whose bed and couch and OMG UGLY RUG we kept. Funny enough, I just went along with it because it’s not like we could afford any different anyway, and then just a few days ago while I was at my parents’ he rearranged the whole place! He threw out the OMG UGLY rug, put my beautiful entertainment (yes, ikea) stand into the living room from the bedroom where it belongs, in plain view to visitors, and we’ve decided to get rid of the bed that was causing both of us sleepless nights and instead are converting to Japanese-style sleeping arrangements (ie on the floor, it’s actually really comfortable) and got a 7.5 ft LoveSac beanbag like thing (for the office/art room/tv room formerly known as the bedroom that we never slept in anyway).

    Anyway! The point it, he came around, and I didn’t even have to do anything! Things that he was adamant about keeping before (see: rug) he happily got rid of in time. I think it was just a pride thing, just as I didn’t want to get rid of some of my stuff. Now we’re both happy and our apartment is looking more awesome by the day. It’ll all be fine!

  18. DG Says:

    C and I totally had similar disagreements when we were moving in. But he really DID have the ugliest stuff!!!

    And DirecTV. Holy moly was that annoying! He wanted it for the NFL package and I wanted to kill myself. But hey, disagreements wil come and go. The important thing is compromise and GIVE THOSE SPORTS ILLUSTRATED ISSUES AWAY!!!

  19. kwarterlifecrisis Says:

    I’m pretty sure I might honestly perish if I were deprived of the Style network.

    I basically live with TB too although he, like M, still rents an ‘expensive closet’ at a friend’s house. I hadn’t really thought about the meshing of stuff though when we actually do officially move in together. I am now going to start making a list of things that shall be stored in the basement of our spacious suburban home. Gotta love the midwest for that. :)

  20. Leah Says:

    Luckily, I’m more rational than emotional, so when I moved in with Simon, it only made sense to get rid of the older, crappier stuff in favor of the newer, nicer, no matter whose it was. Whenever anything got contentious, though, we both managed to take a step back and say, “It’s just stuff, after all. Is my stuff more important than my beloved’s happiness?” The answer is always no.

    We also hid a lot of things in closets.

    (We’re having some problems agreeing on paint colors in the new house, but here’s what seems to be working: I say, “Brown!” and then Simon says, “Gray!” and then I say, “No! Brown!” and then he says, “Okay, if it means that much to you…” and then I feel bad and say, “No, let’s do what you want to do, sweetie.” See how tricky he is?

  21. ...BeccaLynn Says:

    Wow. Plenty of comments to go around, huh?

    Too bad for me, we were uber poor when we moved in, and therefore our stuff is just as miss-matched as his sounds.
    I do say that if you have to get rid of your Time Warner Cable and keep his ugly trash can and DirecTV, you should be able to keep your bed. End of story. It’s the better bed. You should appeal to his logic. That’s how I’ve figured out to win when I get desperate enough.

    Good luck though. It sounds like there are a few more nights of negotiations to go. ;-) Just keep in mind that above all, you both just want to make each other happy, and that you love each other.
    No amount of ugly trash cans and saggy beds could get in the way of that. :-)

  22. Cara Says:

    First timer here: we just switched over to DirecTV in June . . . we get the Style Network and a DVR we don’t have to pay for. Just never mind the satellite dish that sits awkwardly on the back deck.

  23. A Lil' Irish Lass Says:

    Though Beave and I don’t live together (yet), I anticipate having these problems in abundance. And I don’t compromise well.

    For me, the bottom line is that, when you move in with a significant other, you want an ADULT apartment or house. That, by definition, does not include things such as a Patriots garbage can. Not unless it’s in a den or some sort of rec room.

    Beave and I were discussing our theoretical future apartment the other day and he asked me where we would put his Buffy the Vampire Slayer collection. I suggested a storage closet or garbage can. There will be no “slayer’s scythe” hanging on any wall of mine.

    Clink, I feel your pain…

  24. Kitty Says:

    Start slow…after a year of living with my fiance-now-husband, I’ve managed to weed through most of this stuff. He framed his posters, which I will now tolerate (at least for now), and got rid of a lot of his furniture when he moved in. Once in a while I make a big deal about giving something away of MINE, and say things like, “This just doesn’t match…and I’ve had it for so long, I’m sure I can find a better one, etc.” I make sure he hears this speech a few times.
    Sometimes I just remind him that I have the Master’s in Art History, and aesthetics is, like, my job.

  25. david Says:

    Regarding the bed thing:

    I was really into my bed, even though my girl had a nicer, newer bed. It was about ten years old. She convinced me to get a new one, and god damnit, it’s the best decision I ever made.

    My back feels infintely better, and I never realized how bad my posture/sleeping was before. And the best thing: The bed company people took my old mattress and incinerated it. Agree with the above commenter about showing M the shit that lives in a ten year old bed. Fucking gross.

  26. Ebee Says:

    Just get rid of it all and start fresh. Delighfully impractical.

  27. DevilsHeaven Says:

    I am currently going through this as well. We both have houses. At first he said to me, “You don’t have that much stuff.” 3 weeks later (after he discovered I have closets), “OMG!!!! What IS all this CRAP!!!!” He thinks I’m crazy because I have linens for the kitchen table for every season and everything in between. I have better towels, I have better dishes. His are from Wal-Mart and totally scream BACHELOR GUY!!! (gack). He wanted to keep the couch cover his mom made him out of 1985 era tan flowered sheets. In the year and a half I’d been with him, I’d never even seen it. Someone at Salvation Army will be happy to have it, I’m sure. It’s not easy, but the general rule has been, if it’s newer/in better shape (my stuff) we keep it. The rest is being sold to finance the remodel of the family room, where I hope to eventually have TiVo installed. DVR has me hooked, but TiVo is sooooooooo much cooler.

  28. AE Says:

    Hi, first-time commenter here. I feel compelled to write because beds are SO important! Seriously. Compromise is great and all–do as much of that as you can in every area BUT the bed. High-quality mattresses improve one’s quality of life drastically. I mean, my furniture is mostly functional but cheap, yet my bed is nice and was expensive, and it’s totally worth it. You’ll both be much happier if you’re sleeping on a better bed.

  29. libby Says:

    hey clink! haven’t heard from ya in a while - but its no wonder!!! you’ve got a lot on your plate lady! in terms of deciding what/what not to keep - i’d have to agree with …BB i think…who mentioned a trade-off. It that’s not working/the whole feel of the apartment doesn’t jive with your stuff and his…instead of giving away stuff that he really likes, try renting out self-storage space, so if/when you move to suburbia you guys can just dig it up again. good luck!

  30. clinkny Says:

    Wow, y’all. So helpful. I’m taking everything into consideration and, of course, I’ll let you know how it all turns out. If I get my way (read: cute stuff! Ugly stuff hidden or integrated so that it looks cute!) you will also get pictures of the new place, once we move in.

  31. crystall Says:

    Compromise. I can’t say that word enough. Somehow, spending the night at someones house 29 nights out of a month still doesn’t even come close to the icing on the cake when it comes to living together.

    It’s different. Mainly because you’re stuck with each other. Everything. At first, aw, yeah, sounds so great and yippee!! Together! Always!

    Shit gets boring real quick.

    It’s constant work. But as always, it’s what you make of it. And… from what I can see now, the biggest thing I can tell you? DOn’t sweat the small stuff. Like beds and garbage cans. Incredibly small in the grand scheme that is living together.

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  33. Amber Says:

    I agree with PL. I just slowly mentioned and changed the stuff that I didn’t like (I moved into his house). If you let it go for a little while, the immediate “I can’t let her tell me what to do” reaction has passed and things work themselves out.

  34. caitlynintherye Says:

    Yeah, I got nothing on this Clink. I shared a dorm room in college with the Fiance (does that even count? I mean, he literally moved everything of his into my dorm room and had a key…) If we are going to count that, I think it helped that he and I had the same style. He was very metrosexual, so the vintage wine-board posters stayed and looked great alongside his black and white photos.

  35. Jess Says:

    Okay, I realize I’m a little late on this one, but Torsten and I moved in together in June and we went through a slightly less traumatic version of this. He won with the internet, the cable provider, and the desk chair. I won about the desk, the couch (the extra one now resides in our bedroom, which luckily is fairly spacious), and the ironing board.

    The bed was the biggest deal–I had a newer mattress and box spring, he had a slightly older mattress, but he claimed his mattress was better, so we ended up trying out both and wound up using his mattress on my box spring. But we still have not quite figured out what to do with the extra mattress, so it is leaning against our bedroom wall, taking up valuable space. And will probably remain there for another year or so.

  36. Katie Says:

    Ahhh I went through this a few months ago myself. My boyfriend and I went with whomever had the nicer stuff. He is employed and I’m in law school so guess who won most of those arguments? He kept some things that I hate- a picture of a loon (seriously?) and an ugly-ass mirror, but for the most part, we did some serious compromising. We also live in Denver so we were able to keep the 2nd bedroom set in storage….along with my Eagles flag. It will go up at our next place!

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  39. Kate Says:

    LOL I hope your living situation is working out furniture-wise. I’ve been living with my boyfriend for a year and half now and we STILL have mismatched furniture. It’s awful. I’m going to be 26 and I had better stuff when I was in college! It’s tough on that level, finding the money to furnish an apartment. I think New York in general makes it hard for you to afford anything.

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