Confession: I never thought I’d be married before thirty.
In fact, my idol when I was younger was my mother’s good friend Celia, a kick-ass forty-something litigator with an apartment overlooking Central Park and a string of men practically groveling to marry her.
I thought I wanted Celia’s life: the Big City, the Big Career, the Big Rock she bought for herself and wore on her right hand, the Big Apartment, the Big Bank Account, the Big Social Life.
When I first moved to New York, that’s what it was about. It was about moving up the ladder in the entertainment industry, about dark corners in small bars with strange men, about working my ass off and partying just as hard, about short skirts and high heels and numbers written on napkins stuffed into my clutch. Right next to the condoms.
I wasn’t a slut but I wasn’t exactly discerning either. When you’re not on the hunt for a husband, dating takes on a whole new spin. It becomes about who can give you the best time, not who will raise your children to be upstanding citizens.
M, of course, changed everything. I mean everything. It was like I was viewing the world through a kaleidoscope of hedonism and then he gently took the kaleidoscope away and suddenly everything was clear. And suddenly the hedonism? It didn’t look so pretty.
It’s hard now, sometimes, to continue to define myself as someone who is engaged, who is in a serious relationship as opposed to defining myself as the ambitious hot shot who danced on bars until 4am.
It wasn’t until my relationship with M that I became the Girl With a Stack of Hidden Wedding Magazines. Also, the Girl Who Would Rather Cuddle and Watch a Movie Than Go Out on Saturday Night. I can’t help but think that the Clink of a few years ago would roll her eyes and say, “so, you’ve become one of them. How pathetic.” Them being, of course, people in relationships.
She would, however, be very proud of how far I’ve come in my career. So suck it, Clink of a few years ago.
This past weekend I met up with a friend from the Old Days, a friend who still looks at New York as her own personal playground. A friend whose misadventures in dating had me open-mouthed and wide-eyed over brunch. A friend who still inhabits the universe that we used to inhabit together, before I departed for Relationshipville.
There is no keeping a foot in each world. I tried, for a bit. It’s damn near impossible.
Like I said, M changed everything. M made me want to be a better person. M made me want to be a wife. I look at him and I see a future quite unlike Celia’s. I see a lovely suburban home and adored children and an all-around wonderful existence that does not include dating a few men at a time and going out five nights a week, waking up hungover and unable to remember half of the night. I see happiness. Hell, I see a Mommyblog.
Sometimes I get jealous that M met me at 32, after he had gotten a whole lot of living out of his system. I met him at 23 and was a bit blindsided at how quickly my world took a turn for the domesticated. I actually think (caution: random logic at work here) that part of my jealousy issues stem from that. I was thrust from a world where I didn’t trust men as far as I could throw them (but damn, they were fun to be with) into a world where I was asked to trust someone completely, with my fucking heart. Conclusion: not easy.
I still miss my old self. I even thought of pulling out some of my old clothes and putting on red lipstick and going as 22-year-old Clink for Halloween. She was fucking fun and carefree and uninhibited and unconcerned about anything other than the moment. Right now, I tend to live in the future and go to bed at 11pm, even on weekends; planning a wedding will do that to you.
I miss her, and I’m glad I was her for a time. But, for the most part, I’m glad that time has passed.
“Who knew?” My friend said to me Sunday afternoon, as we sipped wine at noon (some old habits die hard). “Who knew that what you have now is really what you didn’t know that you wanted all along?”
Truer words have never been spoken.
This post is so relatable on one hand, and so unrelatable on the other; Sub “DC” for New York and “Public Policy” for Entertainment, and you’ve got a pretty good shapshot of my own early-20s.
But I don’t chalk the changes up to Dude. He didn’t change everything; I did, and it didn’t happen overnight. A million different choices got me where I am today, both personally and professionally, and I’m well aware of exactly which ones led me to Dude.
I LOVE what I have now, but it’s not “what I didn’t know I wanted all along.” I most definitely DID NOT want this at 22 years old. I did everything in my power to avoid it, in fact. Christ, I didn’t know my ass from my elbow at 22, so I wouldn’t have even known what to do with it if I DID have it. ha!
Hey Clink -
I’ve been lurking around your blog for a few weeks now, no idea how I found it, but I’m glad I did. I enjoy reading what you have to say - and that’s saying something!!
I think what draws me so much to your blog, is how many times I’ve read something you’ve said and swear to god you were hanging around inside me head and wrote what I’ve felt, thought or was just thinking. Kinda creepy, actually.
This post in particular, however, really hit home for me. I’m a newlywed - again. I got married young, divorced and got crazy enjoying the single life. I swore I’d never remarry. I was all about career, my girlz and meeting as many men and having as much fun as humanly possible.
And then I met Husband. The man who showed me what love was really about, and he turned me world upside down. He was the first person I felt like I could stand still with in my crazy non-stop world.
At times, I feel conflicted about “being married” - not because I have doubts about Husband - but because I never saw it coming in my “future picture”. I sometimes miss the “old” me, and feel like I betrayed my 27 year old self when she swore herself to singledom forever.
But I think she’d give me a high five and forgive me if she met Husband and saw how happy I am now. It’s weird how life throws you a curve ball… kinda like Papelbon, huh?
just kidding, couldn’t resist.
Anyway, thanks for writing - I’ll even read your someday mommy blog!
I’m definitely still in the hedonistic phase, dating several men at once. And I’ve always convinced myself that I don’t want to settle down, don’t want to get married or have children. But in a weird way I could see all of this happening, I could see myself ending up with my own M, and adopting a few children and dogs.
Thanks for this. You make me kinda look forward to getting there.
I’ve been lurking on your blog for a while too, and finally decided to comment because I relate to this post so. much. I’ve been told by family and friends who knew me before I met my M that I’ve done a complete 180 from who I used to be. I wasn’t sure if I wanted to go to school, and just basically led an aimless (albeit fun-filled) life. He’s extremely focused on school and becoming successful, and I guess it rubbed off. I also swore up and down I would NEVER get married, and now it’s something I constantly imagine with a smile.
I also wanted to let you know that I LOVE your blog. Keep up the good work
Oh how I can relate. Only I spent my early twenties in a serious relationship and thinking that was what I wanted and when I got out of that relationship at 24, I did what you did at 22: brought out Ashley the partier. I’m winding down out of that, because really? that ashley is fun but I can’t keep up. I’m feeling my age (ha ha)
Although I am still serial dating like its my job.
I don’t know, to me, a combination of what you’re describing and Celia’s life sounds just fine. I like the career, the apartment in the city, the social life, *and *the loving husband.
Obviously it’s just a matter of personal preference, but I just wanted to point out that there are those of us out here who have the loving husband, don’t do the dancing on bars thing, etc. but who don’t take issue with the “Celia” lifestyle (at least how you describe it, minus the men waiting around for marriage bit) by any means. There are all sorts of ways to be in a serious relationship, to be a wife, etc. and, certainly, not of all them require a move to the suburbs and a couple of kids.
(Not that I think you suggested otherwise. I know you were just describing *your* personal idea of what you wanted your future to be. Hope you don’t mind my adding mine–the city life, careers, taking advantage of all the city has to offer, plus a happy family of 2 sounds perfect to me. And, p.s., so glad you found what you were looking for, even if you hadn’t quite realized you were looking for it.)
Hey Clink,
Clearly I’m not the only one who just read your post and thought - wow, that’s totally what happened to me. Just like girl gone green says I find myself reading your posts so many times and thinking, hey! this is just what was in my head!
I did think it was weird but after reading all these comments and seeing how many others out there feel the same I think maybe it’s not so weird.
I told my grandmother on many occasions that I never wanted to get married, she just laughed and now I look at myself and think maybe old people are wise after all.
Anyway that’s me delurked for today.
It’s funny how expectations change.
I think most people, myself included, probably expected me to be married by my mid-twenties.
When I was in college my sorority pledge class would sit around betting on who would get married first. No matter the day I was always last. I was totally cool with that. But it turns out I was first and I am much more cool with that.
I like all the ages of Clink - just like I told you yesterday; Relationships mature you, and it’s not a bad thing at all. And I’d wager to say that M is just as lucky to have met you as you were to meet him.
I’m loving the new brutally honest Clink
I had never planned on being married. I had a lot of successful single women in my family who were my role models - Not my mom who was married and had 4 kids by 25 (yes, that was what she wanted. And she says she would have had a dozen kids if she could).
Then I met E, and yes, everything changed. I am lucky to have met him when I did. I got a lot of living free and single and traveling and having fun out of the way. Now it’s living free and together (yes, possible)and traveling and having fun in a different way.
Right before I turned 21 I broke up with my boyfriend of 4 years…and then went crazy with the bars, parties, guys, etc. It was a blast - then. Now at 24-almost-25, I could never keep up with that kind of lifestyle again. I just moved in with the boyfriend about a month ago and honestly enjoy our nights in with a movie and a bottle of wine so much better than going out to some random bar and he feels the same way. I’m yet another girl that can relate to your post today. Loooove it!
I think that you and I are the same person. For me, it wasn’t a friend of my mom’s though; it was my parents’ divorce. It happened when I was in college (they’d been married 27 years) and my world was turned upside down. I decided then that I didn’t ever want to get married. That set me off on a downhill slope and I wasn’t exactly a slut, but like you said, I wasn’t exactly discerning either.
And then I met TB. And now I’m that Girl Who Would Rather Cuddle and Watch a Movie Than Go Out on Saturday Night. And I’m okay with that. It’s like you said - I’m glad I was that girl for a time, but I’m also glad that that ship has sailed. I like who I am now and I like what I see the future holding.
I was never really a hedonist like you describe, but I was also totally not expecting to be getting married this young–I never would have thought I’d be engaged at 23, and neither would most have my friends. But it feels right, and the future I see for myself is very similar to the one I used to see in terms of everything except the timing of marriage and kids, because Torsten is so supportive of me and my career goals and my goals in general. It’s all about being comfortable with the unexpected ways that your life shifts. I’m glad that you are. And I’m glad you’re telling us about it.
This post really hit home for me. (Of course in RI, the bars close at 1. But I digress…) Michael and I aren’t that far apart in age, but he was very mature when I met him. It felt like I was thrust into an adult relationship.
I wouldn’t change it for the world now, but remember the advice I was given the other day. “Always keep a piece of yourself for yourself.” You don’t have to sleep with lots of men, but don’t forget to have a great night on the town every once and awhile. Complete with dancing on the bar till 4 a.m.
It’s funny because for me right now in this moment I am scared shitless about being the girl who would rather sit at home and cuddle on a saturday night than go out to the bar and meet guys. because really - how am i going to meet guys sitting on the couch?! i’ve always been that way, i’ve never done the partying and serial dating or staying out at the bar until 4. and now i sort of have to. it freaks me out A LOT.
Clink, I feel like we are living parallel lives. In addition to really relating to the rest of your post today, I especially relate to the jealousy part of meeting a man (the man I hope to marry) who is older and has lived a whole life before I was even able to drive! By the time I met J, he was on a second CAREER (I hadn’t even started my first). Crazy!
Anyway, thanks for sharing your life with us. It’s *almost* as good as having drinks and gossiping with the girls.
You’re oh so wise, Clink. I was kind of the promiscuous girl when I met B. That’s actually how we fell in love. But that’s a story for a different day.
I will have to second Molly here. I’m sure you know it better than any of us, but just sayin’.
I also just wanted to say hi! I haven’t heard from you in a while. So, HI!
See? And I am on the opposite end thinking I was going to be married at 25 and have all my babies by now at 33. By the time I met F, I was trying to go back to all the partying and dating. Love always hits ya at the weirdest times, doesn’t it?
Jess I’m with ya. Engaged at 23 (just turned 24 2 days ago!!) and will be married before I turn 25. I do feel like I’m missing out on some single girl things but at the same time I wouldn’t trade it for my life now. I never thought I’d be getting married so young. Definitely didn’t think it would happen until at least my late 20s but right after I turned 21 I met HIM. I knew he was THE one the night I met him.
I know where you are coming from because I’ve been there. I met my husband while in my last year of college and thought the timing couldn’t have been better for I was the crazy girl back then and I tired of the scene and he brought me to a different place. In love and happy. Happy because I was looking for him and he found me. And he is 10 years older than me so I get the whole jealous that he had his time to be extra crazy bachelor guy and me? Well I’m still grappling when to be a mom and wondering when I grew up when he’s already passed that threshold and is waiting for me to be ready.
great post! you have now made me wonder about my own jealousy issues; since i got married quite young at 20. : ) but i don’t regret it at all!
I never thought I’d want to get married. Ever. Even when we were years into our relationship. Because I had no faith in the institution, and I figured if we were going to spend the rest of our lives together, we just would. Things change. I still don’t want the picket fence, white or other, or the kids, but I’m pretty much loving married life. I love being his wife, even though sometimes he drives me insane.
P.S. I love the new SGH, and I heart you.
It’s so nice to know that I’m not the only one. I’m 26 and still dealing with those issues. I’m in my first serious relationship and most of our arguments in the beginning stemmed from me not wanting to change my life at all and still have him there…doesn’t quite work that way. Anyway, just wanted to thank you for putting it out there; it’s a big comfort to know that other women go through the same things.
like molly, this post, too really hit home for me. I was that 22 year old…and then i met M at 23. and know every feeling you speak of. literally, m turned my world upside down, and yes, he was 32 as well.
i agree with the bit of jealousy part, that they had time to get all that out…but now, when i’m sitting home on a thursday night, watching greys in my pj’s and texting my boyfriend? i don’t miss that party girl lifestyle out at the bars looking for a “fun night” one bit. sure i still love going out with my girlfriends and everyone needs to dance on a bar from time to time…but the major change is that i’m quite content being at home curled up in bed watching a movie with the love of my life.
i guess i couldn’t have said it better myself with what you wrote: “I miss her, and I’m glad I was her for a time. But, for the most part, I’m glad that time has passed.”
amen, sister. amen.
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Except for the whole getting married part this is exactly how I feel. I was also 23 when I met my boyfriend (and he was 32) and he had lived a whole crazy life before me. He would tell me about the things he had done and I would get jealous. I never planned on getting so serious at 23 and there were times I felt like I was missing out on the experiences he talked about. I don’t feel the same way now but I do catch myself thinking how much I have grown up in this relationship.
This post was magnificent, Clink. Growing up, I always pictured my mid-twenties to be “that” age. The age when you were an adult, were married, had a place, were thinking about kids in a few years…you were set. I remember thinking that my mother, who had me when she was 28 after getting married a year earlier, had started late. “I won’t be THAT old when my adult life begins,” I thought. Yeah, well, I’m going to be 25 in December. There is no marriage, no babies. Not even off in the distant horizon.
Now that I’m approaching the quarter century mark (holy SHIT), I feel torn. Part of me 100% wants the hedonistic, Manolo-wearing, Carrie Bradshaw lifestyle. The lifestyle where $15 martinis and getting home at 4AM is normal. I want to be FABULOUS and SINGLE and FUN! FUN! FUN! And then, part of me 100% wants to stay home on Friday nights in sweats, curled up on a couch, watching TV with My Man. My Man who will be My Husband, who will be The Father of My Children.
I envy you for finding what made you so happy, Clink. It’s such a beautiful thing
Amen sister!
Young life, Hedonism, you name it i rocked it. i rocked it hard.
then my world flipped i moved met OM and SMACK its cuddleville. He is SOOOO much older than me that i totally sympathize.
sometimes i feel jealous that he got so much more “living” before meeting me than i did before meeting him. Plus i sometimes i get the crazy from thinking about all the things he did without me or all the birthdays he had without me, like 30 or 31 or 32 or 33….
but, meh what is one to do?
This blog hits home for so many of us. Thank you for sharing so openly.
Hug!
God I love this post. After a decently lengthy relationship, I am newly single (as of last night, actually) and scared shitless. Oddly, I hate being alone and yet am terrified of marriage (used to have nightmares about walking down the aisle). My wilder days of dancing on bars and dating bartenders (useful in Boston where last call is ridiculously early) will stay firmly behind me, but your words just reaffirm that I need someone who makes me WANT to be married, not just someone who makes me feel a little less afraid of being alone. (Yeah, yeah, a good therapist could have told me that too. Noted.)
Love the honesty.
P.S. This Sox fan is sorry to see Torre go. My condolences for your loss.
Now I’m freaking out that Dude is jealous of my rip-roaring 20s. haha I am most definitely far more experienced than him in almost every way possible, even though he’s got almost 6 years on me.
Another post that was exactly what I needed to hear today. Thank you for sharing, Clink.
honestly? i can’t wait until i meet the person that changes me for the better like that
I can completely relate. I am 26 - The Boyfriend is 34. I definitely feel like he got to live a little bit more life than I did. And damn it he’s so muhc further along in his career than me.
But then I think about how far in my career I am because of him. And how far I am in my career for how old I am. Etc. etc. etc.
However - on Halloween and sometimes other nights, The Boyfriend and I go out and I act like I did when I was 22 and he acts like he did when he was 22 - only we do it with each other - and we only have eyes for one another. And you know what? IT’S FUN! It makes it feel like when we first met all over again. And we dance and we drink and we are completely in love. : )
Try it….
Wow that was like reading a page out of my own life. I was CERTAIN (and happy!) that I’d be the last of my friends to get married. Dating was FUN. It wasn’t a hunt. I often feel really reminiscent for the old me, but in reality, I’m so much happier now. He was 32 and I was 24 when we met and I get jealous about that a lot. But he doesn’t seem to think he lived it up anymore than I did. Apparently, it gets old after a while. I’d like to think that if I’d stayed in that mode any longer, I’d have gotten bored.
Thanks for posting this, I loved it.
wow. you’ve touched something in all of us clink. thanks for putting beautifully into words what it seems a lot of us have experienced right along with you.
i never would’ve thought 3 years ago that i would be perfectly content on a friday night to veg out on the cough snuggled under a blanket with j. while watching HEROES season 1 on dvd. =D
such a fabulous post sweety. And I can TOTALLY relate. That’s exactly what happened to me when I met C. Isn’t it crazy?
It’s wonderful how you can embrace your *new* self and know that your future is what you want it to be. I just celebrated my tenth anniversary and I, lke you, was married young so I understand the jealousy bit..I know you are going to be so happy though because this is what you were ready for all along…
Being thirty is stupid. Trust me.
uhm, I LOVE the new, brutally honest CLINK. More please!