I just kicked M out of our bedroom.
We just spent seven very long, very traffic-filled hours in the car together on the way home from Boston after having spent almost every waking hour since last Friday together and while I love him - lots - I finally reached my breaking point.
He began to talk to me as I started to write and I totally snapped. Something along the lines of “I can’t do this with you right there over my shoulder. I think I need some alone time.”
Never, in the history of our relationship, have I told him I needed alone time. Never, in the history of our relationship, have I ever felt such a desperate need for alone time.
There’s a first for everything.
He’s in the living room right now, reading. And I feel just awful. And yet, I haven’t put down the laptop to go in there and make amends because the truth is, I need this. I need to just be in a quiet room with my thoughts. The holidays - and family members, and obligations, and driving all over the damn eastern seaboard - don’t leave much room for thoughts.
Don’t get me wrong, this past week has been quite lovely, though not perfect.
You see, sometimes, I can be incredibly self-absorbed.
Not so much in a “oh I’m sorry, I didn’t hear what you were saying because I was too busy staring at my reflection in the window of the dry cleaners” sort of way. I guess it’s more like, if I’m happy, I assume everyone else is happy too. If I think something is a good idea, I tend to assume that everyone else assumes it’s a good idea too. I live in a little Clink bubble and that’s all well and good, until I stop taking others into consideration.
The holidays, they are a touchy subject for M and I. It comes down to this: I am a spoiled brat and I love my family and I can’t imagine not being around them for the holidays. Not just my immediate family - they don’t live that far and I see them often - but my large, loud, extended family. Holidays are a great excuse for all of us to get together in the same place at the same time and eat spanikopita until we feel like vomiting and drink whatever alcoholic concoction my aunts have thought up until we feel like vomiting even more.
M isn’t as close with his family. His sister doesn’t bother to come home from the midwest, where she lives with her husband and son, so it’s just M’s parents and his uncle having a quiet, all-American dinner (pork chops, applesauce, and other non-ethnic things) and then making small talk while sitting in the formal living room, sipping tea or coffee. Which is very nice, of course, but I’m used to a raucaus holiday with lots of people and lots of food and lots of yelling and lots of different conversations all going on at once.
Our families are very different and the ways in which they celebrate can be considered almost direct opposites and you know what? If I’m being honest? I like my family’s way better.
But, this is a relationship. And there should be compromise, I know that. I’m just…not ready yet. In fact, I told M that since this was our last Christmas before being married, that I felt okay with us spending it apart. He refused because, again, if I’m being honest? I think he likes my family’s way better, too.
That didn’t keep him from being a bit quiet on Christmas, however. He kept saying he was fine until I cornered him in the basement, where my aunt sent us to fetch more vodka, and nearly begged him to tell me what was wrong.
He shrugged and said “I just miss my parents. That’s all.”
And it damn near broke my heart because there I was, fully enjoying a Christmas with my family, laughing with my family, telling stories with my family and because I was having such a good time, I just assumed M was too.
He was, of course. Part of him was, but part of him was feeling lonely for his parents, up in a suburb of Boston, having their quiet Christmas without either of their children.
We went up to Boston for a few days following Christmas but obviously, when the actual holiday is over and people are back at work and everything at the stores is drastically marked down, it loses some of its magic.
So next year, we will have to compromise. I made that decision on the spot when he told me he was missing them because I love him and I don’t want him to feel any pain - especially not because of me.
There will most likely be Christmas Eve and Christmas morning with one family and then a four-t0-seven hour drive to spend Christmas afternoon and evening with the other. Since I still can’t bear the thought of missing an entire holiday with my family, that’s just what we’ll have to do. It’s not perfect, but neither are we, you know?
I mean, I certainly am not perfect. And before the guilt of kicking him out of his own bedroom eats me alive, I’m going to go curl up next to him on the living room couch and apologize and also try to articulate how I feel right now.
And then I’ll change the topic to how excited I am to be going to the Giants v. Patriots game tomorrow (where I will possibly meet Mike!) because talking about football always puts boys in a good mood.
I hope you had lovely holidays full of magic.
And compromise.
Spend Thanksgiving Day with one and Christmas Eve/Day with the other, if it’s too hard to spend Christmas Eve with one and Day with the other. What you are planning? That’s A LOT of traffic to have to deal with on Christmas.
This is the same with me and my boyfriend’s families, it’s so hard to divide up the time for each holiday. But luckily our families live close together, so it makes it easier. I’m glad you two still had a great time!
you are describing me and K to a T. Except that he doesn’t miss his parents. I think he gets overwhelmed with my big noisy family but he does enjoy it. Thank GOD for separate Christmases. You lot should consider going Old Calendar. Anyway I am really commenting to say DO NOT feel bad about alone time. I totally asked K to please go see a movie or something because I couldn’t be around people and needed the whole apartment to myself and he was happy to do it. And I was kicking him out of his (temporary) home! xo
I can’t wait to marry into a family like yours. You have a brother, right?
Just kidding.
But you do, don’t you?
Don’t beat yourself up too much. We all need some alone time now and then.
And I’m sure he did have a fabulous time with your family- I think the compromise that you’ve worked out is perfect.
How funny… my BF and I are that way too, only he is the self absorbed one and I am the quiet, pretend every thing’s okay when I’m really upset one… And I agree with the Thanksgiving with one and Christmas with the other. Doing both is really stressful and tiring. And yes, we all need alone time sometimes… it’s funny how you can love someone so much but when you need that time, their every word is the most annoying noise on the earth.
Everyone needs time to themselves, don’t feel bad about it.
Good plan to spend time with each family. That’s how it works. Fortunately for me, X is from my hometown, so we just hopped from house to house Christmas day. That meant eating 4 decent-sized meals in one day. Ouch.
I hope that the splitting the holiday thing works out for you. It’s a very non-self-absorbed thing for you to do. I feel like I’m the spoiled one in this situation because Torsten’s German, so his parents don’t celebrate Thanksgiving and they’re too far away to visit over Christmas. I get spoiled because we always get to do things my way, with my family, and Torsten is so used to being far from his family that it doesn’t bother him. I think it bothers his mom, though.
Anyway, I’m jealous of Giants v. Pats! Everyone in the whole country will be watching that game on TV, and you get to be there! Have a great time.
I totally get what you mean about needed time alone. I just snap, and need to be in my room with nobody else. Take your time, man!
Previous to this year, my hubby and I had always (**) traveled 8+ hours to see relatives. We’d do Christmas Eve at his parents’ house and then drive another 4 hours to do Christmas Day with my side. My family is the wild’n'crazy bunch, and his side is more reserved. To be honest, I always preferred the quiet calmness of his side! (I can only handle so much drama in one sitting!)
Anyway, this year, we put our collective foot down and didn’t travel at all. We stayed home. It was AWESOME. Now that we have a daughter, we want to start our own traditions. There are growing pains from both sides, but they’ll just have to get used to it. (**We didn’t travel the year Claire was born because she was barely three weeks old, and they understood that. Actually choosing not to travel for the holidays was tough for them to handle, but they didn’t give us too much grief about it.)
As long as you two find a plan that brings at least a little bit of happiness to both of you, you’ll be fine.
Have a GREAT new year!!
Clink, it’s times like these when I feel like we should hang in real life b/c damnit, you just get it. You get the dividing time between two families struggle that I JUST went through a number of days ago. I’m glad you worked it out. Even thought the idea of driving 7 hrs on Christmas day makes my hear hurt, you guys will do it and it will be worth it. It is all always worth it.
I’ve been reading your blog for a few months now, and I must admit I’m intrigued. You and M have a relationship that I dream of my single NY gal’s life to be like. So I just got home from the meatpacking, cute boys, yes-but none that I’d bring home to the midwestern “simple” parents that I have. I’m from a state that 642K people live, my hometown would nearly occupy the 1/3 block in Manhattan that I live. I wish you two nothing but the best, and as my mother always says “opposites attract.” Here’s to 2008 with nothing but the best!
As always, I love the honesty.
And we are on the same page when it comes to being self-absorbed. Though I occasionally check out my reflection in things. (And by “occasionally,” I mean constantly. And by “things,” I mean pretty much any flat surface.)
The fact that you were bothered by him being sad in the other room means that you aren’t TOO much of a brat.
Just, you know, a little bit.
Go Giants!!
doing the thanksgiving for one and christmas for the other really isn’t fair unless you alternate that too every year. I think driving 7 hours every christmas will get old fast. Unfortunately, I think the most fair thing to do is do christmas every other year with each family. You are marrying into a family and you have to be considerate of that. M is not just joining your family, you are joining his too and I know you don’t want to be the reason you drive a wedge between him and his family. I’ve seen it happen too many times.
I understand the feeling, trust me, i’ve been there…you just have to “take one for the team” every other year……..
Thankfully, E and I manage to visit all families (both sets of parents are divorced) in the two days of Christmas. They’re all loud and crazy and fun and we try to pack in as much as we can. Only, I could do without visiting his dad’s family. Oh Lord, if there were ever any more NOSY people who can also be the quietest-sit-around-and-stare-at-each-other kind of people…Gah! I know you and M will work it out.
Go Giants!!
I really think this happens to a lot of us - especially when we are with the person we love for such an extended period of time - something similar happened to us when we got back from christmas day, I had to just tell my hubby to leave me alone and go play xbox, i just needed to be alone with my friends dvds, laptop, and bed!
And as far as splitting the holidays - it’s always hard because my hub can never be with his parents due to christmas-church-responsibilities (he’s a pastor)… so we’ve had a system for a few years which although isn’t ideal seems to work out well. We do Thasnkgiving in MD with his fam, and then Christmas in PA with mine. Then at New Years, we come back down and have a second (and still very special) Christmas with his fam again in MD. So far it seems to have been good… so I dunno.
just some thoughts
My husband hovers. I love him, but good lord, go away! I totally understand
And splitting families is so difficult. And ours only live an hour apart.
why dont you invite his parents to spend xmas with your family — you’re going to all be related by then anyway.
I think everyone goes through this who is in a relationship and it is hard and it’s not perfect. It’s just how it is and you go with it. Hopefully next year the compromise will be smoother. We say that next year we’ll host the holidays so that everyone comes to US! : )
GO PATS!!!!!!!!!!!!
I feel the same way about not spending the holiday with my extended families (Dad’s side Christmas Eve, Mom’s Christmas day), and so I didn’t spend Christmas with HOM. By 2 o’clock on Christmas, I was missing him really badly–and even his family (well, his niece and nephews. And one sister in law). I was kind of down the rest of the night, and decided that next year, we’ll do the split thing. It’s not ideal, but hey, it’s all about compromise, no? Happy New Year. And, oh yeah, GO PATS.
I think it’s perfectly healthy to need some alone time. Fortunately, my BF and I are both only children, so we understand that need and it doesn’t hurt anyone’s feelings (too much).
I’m also a fan of splitting (Thanksgiving at one, Christmas at the other) the holidays. Our families live far apart, and though it’s a difficult compromise, it is a compromise. I’ve learned to enjoy new traditions.
Did anyone else visualize “My Big Fat Greek Wedding” at your description of the two families?
I SO get you. Compromise is really what it’s all about. My family and C’s family couldn’t be more different as well. I heart you and missed you! And sometimes, everyone needs just a little time alone. He’ll understand.
i feel the exact same way about my family and H’s…i love being with my family and they are loud and boisterous, etc…H’s family not so much, and they are not half as close as my family…its a tough compromise for holidays.
don’t beat yourself up about wanting alone time or even for thinking you are self absorbed at times. the fact that you are realizing these thoughts and wanting to improve upon them means that you are also being considerate of m’s feelings.
relationships are hard.
holidays make them harder.
but at least you have football and alcohol to make things better! good luck!
There are times that I need a breather from my boy, too. Sometimes, a moment to collect your thoughts is important.
Luckily, I don’t have to worry about seeing everyone over the holidays. I’m Jewish so Christmas isn’t a big deal for me or my family. On Thanksgiving we do lunch at my house and dinner at his. Our families only live a little over an hour away. The amount of food we are forced to eat is ridiculous. Seriously, his mom will actually put stuff on my plate if she doesn’t feel that I ate enough. But the tummy ache is worth getting to spend the holiday with both families.
I hope you figure out something that works for you and M. By the way, your family sounds like a lot of fun.
I applaud your willingness to compromise. I too come from a loud, raucous family and couldn’t imagine missing a holiday filled with my mother’s cooking, my grandfather’s inappropriate jokes, and lots and lots of drinking. I was completely unable to strike a compromise when I was dating Beave and am really nervous about the prospect of having to do it when I get into another relationship.
I look to you for inspiration, Clink. No pressure ; )
Yuck. I’m not looking forward to having to do the split family holiday thing (especially because my family sounds like M’s and I would prefer something like your’s - spanikopita, mmmmm). I do hope you figure something out that works for both of you (and makes you both happy) - I’m sure you will.
aw, but everyone needs alone time! especially after 4-7 hour car rides. (:
We did the split holiday thing for a while (same locations, roughly, too), but now we just stay here. We tend to see my family before in the lovely tri-state region, then his family comes from Vermont and Massachusetts for xmas itself. And sometimes my family comes in bits and pieces too. It’s all good, just evolving and different as you grow your own family traditions. Because that’s what you are now—a family of two, and you each come first before the extended family. How amazing is that!
my goodness. holiday celebrations are so tricky. truth is? i love spending the holidays with his family a little (lot) more. but i feel SO GUILTY I DIE about it, that i often pick fights about him not loving my family as much as i love his. but hey, can he help it if his brothers are like, his best friends and that their wives are my favorite people in the whole world? (ps. best sisters in laws EVER).
anyway, i feel M’s pain, but i see your side too. suckajaweea.
ps. 7 years into marriage and it’s starting to get a little easier. something to look forward to. hee.
You know what I love? The fact that you know you’re a brat (because hi, I am too) and that you’re still willing to compromise for him. That, my dear, is love at its finest.
And regardless of the travel, the exhaustion, the weariness, you’re spending a holiday with the people you love. Isn’t that what it’s all about?
Every couple goes through something like this. It’s hard on parents too. I couldn’t help sympathizing with M’s parents — all alone on Christmas because their children were too absorbed in their own lives to come home. I get upset sometimes when my sister chooses to spend a holiday with her in-laws … and it makes me more determined to be the kid who comes home.
But, in a way, you’re actually “lucky” that M’s family only has three people. Because you have another option: invite them to your parents’ house. That’s what my dad’s parents used to do — so my mom’s parents (it was just the two of them) wouldn’t be alone and could see the grandkids.
Your story hit home. Twice.
First, because I have shoved Sweets aside when I’m trying to write and I feel he’s hovering. Of course, then I know he thinks I’m hiding something, which I’m not (because he reads every word) … but, it’s just those precious few moments, where all I have are my thoughts and words and well, I know how you feel!
Second, because Sweets’ family has the same struggles as M’s. Sweets’ brother lives 30 minutes from his parents, yet celebrate EVERY holiday with his in-laws. And it breaks Sweets’ parents’ hearts. Might I make a suggestion (based on what I’ve seen) … have you ever considered asking M’s family (because it’s only 3 of them) to join yours on Christmas? That way, everyone wins?
Congrats on the Pats win. Great game!
Nobody can be expected to spend a full week with each other that is not an actual vacation, and that involves families and all that comes with them (good and bad) and not need some alone time at the end of it. One of the hard/great things that comes after a few years of marriage is learning to read the signs for when you or your other half needs some alone time, and to make that space for them without their having to ask. Not a fun lesson to learn, but always a good voice to listen to when you hear it in the back of your head.
i had the same and opposite experience, we both spent quality time with everyone in both families, but my mom was the one spreading the guilt, this was the first christmas neither me or my sister were home for the whole thing, so the first thing out of her mouth was it hasnt felt like christmas because you two arent here! i guess if its not one comprimise its another!! heres to a great 2008!! and i cant wait to hear about meeting mike!
We should talk in ‘08 because B. and I will face the same dilemma. Whose family will we spend Christmas Eve and Christmas Day with? I have no idea, and like you, I can’t imagine not spending those days with my family doing things our way.
B.’s family (who also lives in a rather starched-collar, pinkies-up-when-sipping tea Boston ‘burb) has a much different approach to the holidays than what I’m used to. I’m sure we’ll reach a compromise we’re both happy with, but yeah, it’ll probably feel really weird at first.
Oh, and I’m SO ready for some alone time after driving from Philly to Boston and crashing at B.’s parents’ house for the past two night. Sanity, where ARE you?
This is year 2 of splitting the holidays. We do Thanksgiving at one and Christmas at the other family, but always have some sort of Christmas celebration with the “out” family as well-either before or after. I had to go to church twice in 4 days. I can usually get away with not going to church more than twice in 18 months. I was apprehensive that it would be trying to be with the bf’s family because they are so different, but once I relaxed, it was a lot of fun.
I absolutely believe that the hardest part of getting married is compromising holidays. It IS hard. I’m certain you and M will be able to figure it out though.
Happy New Year!
i too, can be totally self-absorbed sometimes. it’s a real kick in the pants when someone’s selflessness makes me see the light. i hear you on this one.
happy new year
i think this happens in a lot of relationships. it’s so hard to decide whose family you want to celebrate with. especially if there’s distance involved. it sounds like you have a great compromise for next year. and while it may be hard, just think about years down the road where you and M will have a family of your own and your OWN traditions. yay!
Maybe, down the road, when you have kids, you can get both families into your family’s house. Perfection.
It is totally O.K. and normal to want some alone time and to want things your way because they are your way and you like them better. Of course, perspective is needed, and you have to realize that from time to time M might feel the same. Here’s the thing no one really tells newlyweds or newly engagaed couples- relationships and marriage - they are hard work. They are totally worth it. But, they are hard work. And compromise, well, it’s not always fun. But again, it’s worth it and you and M will grow stronger because of it.
figuring out the holidays is tricky when you first get married, especially when there is no kid factor for you to pull the “just come over our house.” my husband and i juggle. A LOT. but realize that both sides have gone through the same thing you are currently going through when they first got married, so there should be a bit of understanding until you get it straightened out.
good luck.
Great post. And oh how I know the feeling. You’ve expressed it so well.
ps omg I LOVE spanikopita. So damn good. I will come eat spanny with your fam anytime. For serious dude. SO FREAKING TASTY.
I hope you had a wonderful holiday. Splitting holidays is difficult but it’s better than one of you being completely miserable.
Hope you enjoyed the Pats/Giants game…even though the Patriots were victorious, I’m sure meeting Mike was great!
Compromise — the cornerstone of every relationship! I understand about you both wanting to be with both of your families on Christmas. That is a tough one. I wish you didn’t have to drive so long on Christmas Day! I hope you guys get it figured out a in a way that makes you both happy.
I know I’m a few days behind on this, but that’s because I was traveling, 10hrs to my man’s parents. Personally? I could totally do without having to go there, AT ALL. And I think, since we’re getting married shortly before all the holidays, I’m going to suggest that we spend them, TOGETHER. Just us. Even though when it looked like I wouldn’t spend Thanksgiving with my family, I FREAKED, and cried. But I think now is the time to be putting the foot down, setting guidelines for spending holidays with who and where. Because seriously? Traveling, and all the stress that goes along with it, totally takes the Joy out of the holidays. And you have to start your own traditions evently.
I so feel your pain. We live with my M’s family, so I think it’s only fair that we spend holidays with mine. He disagrees. It’s difficult to compromise, especially when you feel that you family is more fun.
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Just wanted to throw out a radical idea to consider - my brother had this problem (except his family is the big one) and finally just invited his in-laws along. We were all happy to have more people, and they had a blast! It might solve something here if it could work out.
Good luck!